Who Is The Best? Tiger Woods vs. Roger Federer

29 Jan

Who is better?  I’ve basically narrowed the two most dominant athletes in the world down to Tiger Woods and Roger Federer respectively.  No other sport has anyone that so obviously stands out, perhaps because most other sports involve teams.  Ladanian Tomlinson comes the closest.  I apologize to football fans in advance, but I didn’t think that he deserved to be included.  If you disagree, say so in the comments.

As for Woods v Federer, most Americans would probably tell you Tiger Woods is better.  Why?  Because they are simply bigger fans of golf, and play and watch more of the sport.  They play the sport, and understand how difficult it is to master.  Non-Americans and tennis players would say Roger Federer.  The way he dominates a game and makes his opponent try and play desperate and afraid is simply astounding.  He combines finesse, strength, and knowledge to decimate his competition.

I really don’t even remember the last time Federer lost.  Thing is, Tiger has also won his past 7 tournaments.  They’re both godsends to their sports.  These guys dominate and still make it fun to watch for the viewers.  Some might say it’s MORE fun to watch because of this fact.

Then there is the age factor.  Federer is 25 and started playing professionally when he was 18.  Woods is 31 and started on the pro circuit whe he was 21.  Woods shot out of the gate with a HUGE victory at the Masters, and would go on to win 12 more majors and 55 more tournaments in the next ten years.  Federer has had a similar record, winning 10 grand slam events and 46 tournaments.  He’s also been runner up in 13 events.  Their numbers are eerily similar for sports that both have deep and talented fields.

So what say you?  I say that Federer is better, simply because he hasn’t even lost a set in god knows how long.  He’s utterly dominant in a sport where upsets can be ripe depending on and infinite number of things.  And yes, this is almost a coin flip situation.  One could say that the sport of golf itself makes it tough for Woods to continually win because of how varied the courses are, and any number of other factors.  But tennis has multiple surfaces, and the only surface Federer has had any ‘trouble’ on is clay.  And ‘trouble’ means he finishes second instead of first.

I have to give the edge to Federer because of how many titles he’s won in a shorter amount of time.  Yes he will retire before Woods will, but that is simply how the sport of tennis works.   Athletes can’t stay in winning condition at 40 years old like they can in golf.  You can’t take away from Federer because the sport has different demands.

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64 Responses to “Who Is The Best? Tiger Woods vs. Roger Federer”

  1. chris me January 29, 2007 at 2:37 pm #

    Plus something that is never mentioned is the phisical part of tennis. The non-stop running and fittness that is required. Golfers can be heavy and out of shape and still win ( see Phil Mickleson) A tennis player must stay in shape all year round because of very little time off between tournamnets. Golfers can play into there fortys, tennis players for the most part have to retire in there early 30s due to the mileage put on there bodys . One more thing Federer plays more mathes than anyone on tour, and can outlast anybody.

  2. Kevin January 29, 2007 at 3:22 pm #

    Tennis vs. golf, defintely two sports of different gear. To me, I am in 30s and will not pick up golf until I can’t run.
    To me, Tennis is more demanding and easier to lose even one’s skill is superior. Golf is less variable and if one is dominant like Tiger wood, he is more likely to dominate all the time. In tennis there is no such luxury. The underdog can mount a upset quite easily therefore a lot more pressure for the favorite to stay on top.

    • henry July 6, 2009 at 12:00 am #

      how is golf less variable? weather affects golf moreso than tennis (they don’t play in the rain). tennis players hit the ball low enough to not be adversely affected by wind… unlike golfers.

      tennis players play on the same court size, with surface the only variable. whilst golfers playing the same course experience variable conditions every day.

      • Glenn October 10, 2009 at 7:33 pm #

        how about the tennis players opponent being a variable condition. Unless you think Federer playing Murray on clay is the same as Federer playing Nadal on clay? therefore a tennis players dominance is more credible than a golfers as the hole isnt different for each player is it? But the opponent on the other side of a net is always going to be different.

  3. jonk February 3, 2007 at 12:25 am #

    Too tough to tell, but an advatange Federer has is his competiton. Woods can be compared (to some degree) against the best of all time just based on what he shoots. Sure, the greens are cut different here and there, and the weather plays a factor. But a 61 at Augusta is still a 61. Federer can look good by beating up weak opponents who would have still been crushed by a young Aggasi or Sampras. Not that he doesn;t get credit for it, but harder to judge.

  4. santori February 3, 2007 at 7:34 am #

    Sebastien Loeb, actually.

  5. Peter February 5, 2007 at 11:44 am #

    The average tennis star has a 1 in 2 chance of winning a match. The average golfer has a 1 in 156 chance of winning a golf tournament. So which is more improbable, a tennis player winning 36 straight matches, or a golfer winning 7 straight golf tournaments?

    Which is less, 1/2 raised to the 36th power, or 1/156 raised to the 7th power. Most people couldn’t estimate either one of those in their head.

    The mathematical answer is that it is 10,320 times more difficult for the average golfer to win 7 straight golf tourneys than it is for the average tennis player to win 36 straight. (1 in 2.2 Quadrillion to 1 in 69 Billion). Federer would have to extend his streak to 51 matches to equal the improbability of Tiger Woods’ feat.

    If Tiger wins again, then Federer would have to extend to 58 matches. If Tiger matches Byron Nelson’s 11 tourneys in a row, then 80 matches for Federer would be comparable.

    I know these guys aren’t average… but that is my point. Tiger is more above average than Federer, even though they are both great.

    Thanks.

    • Glenn October 10, 2009 at 7:34 pm #

      What flawed reasoning…

  6. fred February 16, 2007 at 8:37 am #

    Here are my two cents. Tiger woods never played defense in his life. Tiger Woods never stopped a putt from going in the hole. Tiger Woods never has to run during a match. Golf is a sport that requires little athletic attributes. No running, no need for any real kind of endurance and no defense. Tennis has all of those attributes at a very high level.

    As far as playing against the field argument, I would say if you look at Tigers match play record that will speak volumes as to how hard it is to play one person at a time in match play format.

    I remember when Jack Niclaus came in around 4th place at the Masters when he was about 56 years old. Imagine a 56 year old Johnny M. making it to the quarter finals of a US Opne. It is never going to happen.

    I’ll end this by saying I want to see Tiger Woods out of breathe and running for four hours real hard making a birdie on the last hole of a tournament.

    Federer is a much better athlete cause he is dominating an athletic sport. Would you consider Bobby Fischer at his pinnacle in this same category. Some people consider chess a sport.

  7. Chris February 16, 2007 at 9:52 am #

    some interesting comments fred

  8. robin February 20, 2007 at 2:35 pm #

    Federer is better by a mile. The thing with golf is, people would like to think that a golfer has to compete with 150 or so other golfers to win a tournament. However, you know that if you are gonna be making birdies or pars consistently, you eliminate 90% of the other contenders right then and there. Of course, you are playing against the course and not against 150 or so players at a time. Also, there is no such thing as intensity or motivation in golf. A guy like fernando gonzalez could hammer second ranked rafael nadal in the A.O simply because he was tremendously motivated. But he couldn’t even take a set of top ranked federer (even though he had the opportunities). The bottomline is anybody in the top 100 can beat anybody in tennis except federer. That is what makes him immense. Having said that, I think he is going to lose again in this french open. Nadal’s gonna whip his ass.

    • henry July 6, 2009 at 12:01 am #

      fail.

    • Glenn October 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm #

      nicely put.

  9. bill February 27, 2007 at 1:24 pm #

    First off, let’s not confuse difficulty to play with difficulty to dominate. Both sports are very difficult to become good at. You pretty much have to be incredible just to qualify for the Nike tour in golf, likewise for the Challenger circuit in tennis. But that has no bearing with how difficult it is to dominate. They are 2 separate things.
    Having said that, I do tend to believe that golf is a little tougher to dominate. But not for the reason that you beat 150 guys rather than just 7 guys because you could just as easily argue that you can’t afford to have one bad day in match plays. A better measure is how many chances one gets to separate oneself from the field. In a 72 holes golf tournament, you only get to hit (including swings and putts) the ball about 280 times. While in a tennis tournament, you get to hit that many times in one match. So overall, a tennis player has more opportunities to shine in a tournament than a golfer. So I would give the edge to Tiger in terms of the degree of difficulty (to dominate, not to play). On the other hand, Tiger himself admitted he can’t dominate the way Roger does. So it’s a toss up who’s more impressive. It’s interesting to see what happens 5 years from now. Maybe we’ll have a better idea by then.

  10. Doug GAll March 22, 2007 at 9:24 pm #

    Tiger V Roger,
    Well definately Tennis requires more endurance, speed and strength. With out a doubt at their level it is improbable that any Golfer including Tiger could go at that pace for that long. To win consistently. Certanly not John Daly.
    However Roger only has to play 7 guys. This may sound small but the Physicl demands needed to complete this winning feat are very high. To do this 46 times is just incredable.
    I beleive the dificulty of what Tiger does out ways the Strenghth , and endurance of what Roger is doing. It is much harder to complete what Tiger does at such a consistent Level.

    Tennis as in Golf you get into a Rythem. But in Tennis you can use your rythem to punish your oponent with speed strength endurance and acuracy.fast pace and instinctive like a footBall player running throiugh the pack. Tennis is confined to one area that makes the degree of error smaller.

    Golf is slower there is no running through the pack. so there for to recreate the instinctive swing needed to compete at Tigers level is much more difficult to repeat over and over after waiting between shots. This part of Golf is very mentaly and physicly demanding. The rythem is slower but the degree of difficulty of the different shots is much higher.
    As far as ability Lets see Tiger and Roger play a tournement Round of Golf and play a Match of Tennis. Average out the ratio of dificulty and we will see that Tiger is clearly the winner.

    Tiger against Roger

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  12. Mike May 6, 2007 at 4:01 pm #

    I think that we live a time when we are experiencing two of the most dominate players of their time.

    I would probably say Roger but you cannot underestimate what Woods has done which is simply amazing.

    Mike

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  14. Kristi June 23, 2007 at 9:51 am #

    I wanted to mention another athlete whose dominance in her sport receives little recognition outside the industry. Her name is Allison Fisher, and she is the number-one ranked Professional Billiard Player, and her titles are unmatched by ANY other Pro-sports Player in history. I would venture to say that given a comparison between Tiger, Roger and Allison, she would stand atop with the most titles and Major victories.

    I know that the athletic ability required in Billiards is inferior to the that of golf, and far less for tennis BUT speaking strictly of a Player’s dominance in their own sport, her achievements will stand throughout time.

    Here’s more information on her career:
    Allison won her first National Snooker title in 1983 at age 15 and then won her first World Snooker title in 1985 at age 17. She went on to win more than 80 National and 11 World Snooker titles from 1983 – 1995, including seven individual titles, three Mixed Doubles and the only Ladies Mixed Doubles ever held, and she defended her World title all but twice in her 10 years of Pro Snooker. She dominated the game of Snooker for her tenure and now continues to dominate the game of pool in the US and all over the World.

    Since coming to the US in 1995, she has won 65 titles, including, 36 WPBA titles, 23 Major titles (7 Nationals, 5 Tournament of Champions, 4 World, 3 US Opens, 2 ESPN Challenges, & 2 BCA/Enjoypool.coms) and 6 Other titles. Allison has won at least one major every year since her debut in 1995 and won the illustrious Triple Crown in 1999 by winning the U.S. Open, BCA Open, and WPBA National Championship. Her tournament record compiled in the 12 years is unmatched in the history of Professional Cue-Sports, or any sport, man or woman. She has won more tournaments than the combined total wins of her competitors and has over five times as many titles as the player with the 2nd most wins.

    She is the current number one-ranked player on the Women’s Professional Billiard Association Tour and is the reigning National and US Open Champion. She has been named Player of the Year 11 times in the past 12 years by industry magazines and is the most recognized face on ESPN in Billiards.

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  18. fred July 6, 2007 at 10:31 pm #

    Well, I will give you a little info about me to help clarify my point of view. At my best I was a 2 or 3 handicap in golf. I like Golf but after picking up tennis again I realize that golf is NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT a sport but a fun competition. tiger is not playing against hte best athletes in the world. Federer is playing against some of the best athlets in the world. I rate Boxing as the hardest sport than Basketball and tennis follow. Golf rates very low on my list of sports. Tiger woods is dominating a competition but he’s not a high quality athlete.

    Let’s compare the best of tigers competiton. Phil Micklelson is rated number 2 in golf and Rafael Nadal is rated number 2 in tennis. Need I say anymore?

    Rafael the “beast” vs Phil Mickelson “mr man breasts” LOL

    To end this I just played one set of tennis with my friend and i am pooped. I could never say that aobut golf. By the way I abeat him 6-3

    oh by the way, Billiards is also NOT a sport. It’s a competition.

    • henry July 6, 2009 at 12:03 am #

      if you were a 2 or a 3 marker in golf, you’d appreciate that its a sport.

      so clearly you’re a liar who has never picked up a golf club.

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  20. Jack July 9, 2007 at 11:04 am #

    1. In golf, you are playing the course; no matter what the opponent is doing, you need to focus on your own game. In tennis, you are playing the opponent.

    2. Given that “the average tennis star has a 1 in 2 chance of winning a match”, the odds of Federer winning a Grand Slam are 1/(2^7), or 1 in 128. It is not any easier to win a tournament in tennis, and it is well known that he wins FAR more than that.

    3. It is true that in golf you aren’t given many opportunities to correct yourself; tennis allows for more “unforced errors”. However, that doesn’t make tennis an easier game to dominate in. Any advantage tendered to Federer in terms of “correcting yourself” or “opportunities” is also given to everyone else on the tour. It is capitalizing on these opportunities that makes the difference. It is true that anyone in the Top 100 can beat anyone else in any given day; except for Federer.

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  24. Daniel September 26, 2007 at 6:51 pm #

    I dont see a point in the comparision at all. First of all golf is not a sport played by athetes in first place. And in golf you can play bad some days and can come back. for tennis you need to be on peak every match. Golf as per Tiger says is basically playin the course mostly than the opponent so no pressure to speak of, where in tennis you need to play opponent, not to mention what the body goes through in some matches in windy /hot conditions.

    • henry July 6, 2009 at 12:06 am #

      Tiger Woods isn’t an athlete. Get back in your hole you keyboard warrior. No pressure in golf? You’re an idiot. Tennis players don’t play in the rain, golfers do.

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    I’m not sure how many of you know about cricket, but sir donald bradman was more dominant in that than any other sportsman. He averaged 99.94 runs per innings. The next best batsmen over any period average at most 65.

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  29. kevin December 24, 2007 at 12:58 am #

    golf is not a sport. its a mental game, using almmost no physical activity. roger federer is a god at his SPORT, and tiger woods is a god at his HOBBIE. thats that.

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    First of all I would like to say that if you are going to comment at least spell correctly. Golf is by far more difficult than any other game or sport whatever you want to call it to dominate in the way Tiger has. Tiger plays 155 other players at the same time where any one of the players has a chance to win example: ben curtis. While Federer plays only a few players and wins a title. If all of the majors were match play Tiger would have 20 majors. Another reason is that when Roger Federer plays great his play diretly affects is opponents where as Tiger Woods can play a great tournament and still get beat if someone careers it because there is far more bad luck in golf than in tennis and because tigers play didnt affect the guy behind him accept in an intimidating manner so that guy can still win. If Tigers amazing shots in any way directly affected his opponents how could he lose ? Golf is not a game of perfect. Tennis is. Therefore Tiger Woods is more dominant because golf is far more difficult to dominate. O and by the way Federer has never won a French Open. How is he even in this conversation?

    • henry July 6, 2009 at 12:07 am #

      he has won a French Open now. but only because Nadal wasn’t fit. Federer is scared of Nadal.

  32. mark January 21, 2008 at 6:46 am #

    As they say, the measure of the sportsman in there chosen sport (restricted to tennis and golf), will be the number of majors he wins. I think Tiger will probably average 1 and 1/2 majors from here on in (6 years finishing at age 37), that would leave him on about 20 majors. I cannot see and player beating Roger on a hard surace for the next 2 years, that will leave him on 18 majors at the rip old age of 27, with at least 5 years left in him and averaging 1 and 1/2 major/year that would leave Roger on around 25 majors.

    It then becomes pure maths -> 20 vs. 25

  33. John January 23, 2008 at 2:27 am #

    Federer has never won a bloody French Open which means he’s never won all four majors Tiger has end of story. By the way Tiger had all four trophies at one time or what some call the “tiger slam”. I almost forgot he won 3 straight U.S. Juniors which were match play (never done before and never done since) and 3 straight U.S. Amateurs which were match play ( never done before and never done since ) If all majors were match play Tiger would have almost 30 majors right now if not more.

  34. zak January 24, 2008 at 4:01 am #

    As a person that plays both sports i feel that i can give an non bias opinion. Without a question i feel the game of golf is a much harder one to master. There are so many things that are involved in a golf swing that it is just mind blowing. Too tight of a grip and you cant get the head of the club around, if you lift your head you top the ball, fading the ball, drawing the ball, backspin, and soooo much more. You just cant count all of the variables in golf, but the big ones are they play on a different course each time. That means learning a new course management, playing the hazards, understanding the types of rough, different speed of the greens and different breaks. What about that little thing known as wind that can push a great ball OB. Walking a course for 18 under that type of stress wears you down. For the people that have not played 18, do so by WALKING 18 and see how tired you are after. And try playing in the rain, they dont do that in tennis.

    I love both games and i am not trying to take anything away from tennis, but the learning curve on golf takes WAY longer then tennis and for tiger to do what he has done as a pro since 21 is just amazing. Tiger by far is just flat out amazing

  35. Unknown February 16, 2008 at 10:28 pm #

    If you go by the Career Grand Slam comparison then undoubtedly you have to say Eldrick Tiger Woods is the best because he has won all majors in his game unlike Roger Federer. I do understand the only players to win career grand slams in tennis are few and far between from Budge, Laver, and Agassi but it can be done, and in golf their is about the same before Tiger Woods got his Nicklaus, Player, Hogan, and Sarazen. I believe that both are equally dominate in their respective sports, so I believe this debate is foolish to have until the ends of their esteemed careers are over. I do tend to think that Roger Federer will get the French Open to be a career grand slammer in tennis like Tiger is in golf. I respect both equally, and that being an American!

  36. dav February 24, 2008 at 2:18 am #

    Another way to look at this is by how many each will likely break the majors mark in their respective sport. So don’t compare Tigers to Rogers, rather Tigers to Jacks and Rogers to Petes. If they both end up with 20, Roger obviously did more against the previous best in Tennis. However, at 26 1/2, Roger is only 2 majors ahead of Pete’s pace. What if Roger only wins 4 or 5 over the next 5 years like Pete did? Roger could very well be getting to the tail end of his dominance. Golfers on the other hand, typically peak in their 30s. Tiger at age 32 is already 4 ahead of Jack’s pace. And finally, just because Tennis is more physically demanding doesn’t mean it’s harder. These sports require completely different skill sets.

  37. Paul April 7, 2008 at 3:55 am #

    Can you play golf badly and win on the last hole ???
    In tennis even if you are at match point you could still win . In golf every hole score counts.So who is better ?

    • Eric February 23, 2010 at 5:27 pm #

      Wow that was a pretty stupid comment. If you are to come back from being down match point, either you were gettin killed and you made a comeback for the ages, or you played a close match. Its not like people can win Tennis matches by just showing up for one point. Get a clue. Tiger has no parity. He is the only great golfer that is playing today. Federer has to go up against great tennis players (Nadal, Murray, Roddick) and still consistently wins majors.

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    I love the fact that this conversation is over and that Federer lost his domination to Rafael Nadal hahhahahah
    Tiger wins a U.S. Open with a torn ligament. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it. Federer is done and Tiger is still truckin. Everyone said that federer would win more majors? ha Rafael might win more majors than Federer at this rate. Fuck Federe still hasnt won the French what a chump

    • kobe July 25, 2010 at 5:28 am #

      excactly the reason why golf is such an easy sport, being injured and still won..can anyone do that in tennis, i say no because it is a very physical demanding sport..unlike golf who is more like playing chess, just all in the mind, just a hobby.

  44. John November 13, 2008 at 1:48 am #

    O and btw i dont care what anyone says bout golf bein an easy sport physically Tiger Woods is in better shape than anyone on this blog and I would bet that Tiger would beat Federer in a Marathon obviously before his injury. BTW i dont know if anyone noticed but Tiger is black so ya that ends all convo on who is the better athlete

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  49. Jack Schoeman June 7, 2010 at 9:41 pm #

    Federer wins this one by a long shot! Tiger Woods is an amazing athlete, and I’ve thought long and hard on both cases- and Roger wins overall

  50. kobe July 25, 2010 at 5:24 am #

    i say manny pacquiao as the athlete of the decade, the way he dominates his sport and the way he destroys his giant opponents is unheard of..plus tennis and golf combined is nothing compared to boxing.but i give the edge to federer against woods, its not even a competition, because woods is not an athlete. golf is not a sport, its just a hobby.

  51. Samantha June 17, 2011 at 1:34 pm #

    Peter Thats Ridiculous!!!

    A Tennis player has to win a number of matches to win that slam. It may seem like a 1/2 chance to win a match but that is for a single match and also depends on the other player. Federer needs to win a number of matches to win the slam decreasing the chance of winning the slam by up to 1 in 256. If he has a single bad day and loses a match he then loses the slam. Whereas Tiger can have a bad day but still has time to make up for this to win a slam.

    Also looking at current standings it’s clear Federer is way ahead of Tiger.

  52. Jason September 12, 2011 at 9:36 pm #

    Tiger by a large margin. He plays 155 guys every week and didn’t miss a cut for 7 years. Tiger is a tremendous athlete and has the best mental strength of any athlete in any sport.

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