He joins a long list of guys such as Robin Williams, Denis Leary, and Carlos Mencia (or Ned Holness, whichever he prefers to go by) by stealing a bunch of bits from a much better comedian in Louis CK:
you’re the jackass. dane cook is funny, similarities are few if any. stop hating, bitch.
I think your name pretty much describes your mental state. You need to simmer down and and take your own advice: “Stop hating, bitch.”
that was more than likely coincidental. and the first weren’t even the same.
Yeah but DC has also had similar “coincidences” with material from Demetri Martin, too. But its OK, cos Dane is still funny. In Germany, a comedian (Michael Mittermeier, who actually isnt funny) stole george carlin’s full ‘airline announcements bit’ and put it into German. Now THATs pathetic.
Alright. We get it. Dane Cook stole a few jokes. I have come to terms with that. i still love his comedy. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t have original jokes that are hilarious. All you people focus on are the jokes that he stole. What about the original jokes he has. Classic jokes. Before he was big jokes. (for example: BK Lounge, Not So Kool-Aid and Nothing Fights) I find these jokes way funnier then the stolen jokes. He would have made it big even if he didn’t steal them. hes very determined. Even if he never stole these jokes, you all would have found something else to hate on. So fighting with you doesn’t really matter. I have said my bit.
whatever heather… not so kool-aid was stolen too from comic Brian Scolaro like 10 years ago while they were represented by the same agent. thieves suck!
I just listened to Dane Cook steal a Demitri Martin joke. Hearing him do the same joke after Demitri, Dane sounds weak and annoying. It makes sense that he would steal a joke from a far superior comedian.
Dane Cook isn’t near the thief Mencia or Leary are, but it doesn’t justify the fact that he’s making millions of dollars on material that others have worked hard on. To excuse a comedian of his magnitude simply on the basis that his versions are “funnier” or that he has other original material is like saying it’s OK for the Beatles to steal a song once in a while as long as they write good originals, too. It’s bullshit. If you’re not talented enough, or funny enough to write your own jokes, than you don’t deserve to be making that kind of money. Stars should be held to a higher ethical standard, and not be coddled, or have their disingenuous behavior excused by fans simply because they are good at it. If you want to steal jokes, than do it in drafty, dimly-lit comedy clubs on open mic night where nobody gives a shit. Don’t go on HBO or Comedy Central and try and pass yourself off as edgy, or provocative with material your not even creative enough to pull out of your own ass! Dane and Carlos are hacks. They represent everything that’s wrong with stand-up comedy today. If you really love comedy, stop supporting them, and start paying attention to the people who are actually writing their jokes.
“If you’re not talented enough, or funny enough to write your own jokes, than you don’t deserve to be making that kind of money.”
You should have spent more time focusing on your grammar than using a thesaurus to sound smart. Basic english rules: then is to carry on with your thought; than is to compare two concepts.
“Don’t go on HBO or Comedy Central and try and pass yourself off as edgy, or provocative with material your not even creative enough to pull out of your own ass! Dane and Carlos are hacks.”
Wow, grammatically incorrect use of “you are.” Seriously? You know they teach elementary kids to write words out so that they don’t make mistakes like yours. “Your” is possessive. “You’re” is directive.
As for Dane Cook “stealing” jokes: it’s similar material, not exact copies. How many comedians out there have similar material? There’s only so much you can talk about on stage. Hearing a joke by someone else and then revamping it is not stealing, it’s improving it. Maybe he heard a joke and put his twist to it to make it his own. In a sense, it’s research. Is it against the law to research what audiences find funny? This is all technically hypothetical because there’s no way to prove whether he did or not.
Dane Cook talks about everyday life events. Are there going to be overlaps between his jokes and others? Of course. It’s life. We experience things that other people have as well. Does that mean we’re stealing each other’s lives? No, it’s that we encounter events that are similar in nature. I hear overlaps in comedians all the time. It’s not a big deal. There are more facets to being a comedian than having good jokes. You have to have the stage presence, the charismatic nature, the ability to serve the joke in a correct manner and to captivate the audience. Dane Cook has all of these things and thus he is successful.
I’ve heard a few of the “stolen” jokes and they’re not replicas. The jokes have similar leads or ideas, but it’s not verbatim.
1. Dane Cook talks about seeing a guy get hit by a car whereas the other guy talks about a guy on a bicycle being hit by a car door. That’s stolen? Really? Two completely different situations.
2. Another is naming your kid. Dane Cook talks about naming his kid the Chewbaca sound as well as Transformers and the other guy talks about no vowels. So talking about naming your kids is a patented idea? Get real.
3. The itchy asshole. So this one is similar by just those words. How many people out there have experienced this? The itchy asshole part is the lead and then Dane Cook takes it in a different direction.
My point is, these aren’t stolen jokes. These are every day concepts that people experience and are found to be humorous. Comedy is funny when it’s true and relateable. If Dane Cook has stolen these jokes, then there is no such thing as an original joke because the ideas had to come from somewhere.
I kinda think you’re a douche
You know what’s more annoying than bad grammar? People rudely correcting it to make themselves feel smarter than others. Most people have more important things to do then proofread every sentence they write, especially when the point of the sentence can clearly be understood by anyone with half a brain.
Okay. You have absolutely no life if you have the time to make long comments and use big words. Don’t hate just because someone is living the life they dreamed. You can’t tell me you have never heard a joke and then went to someone else and said the joke but never put, “Oh my god, my friend told me the funniest jok,” in front of it. So seriously chill.
I agree with mllerref88. Dane Cook is a hack and not playing on a level playing field with guys who write their own material.
“Heather” tried to defend Cook by saying, “All you people focus on are the jokes that he stole.” Let me tell you something, sweetheart, if people can point out half a dozen jokes Cook stole from big name comics, I can guarantee you he stole countless more from unknown comics he crossed paths with at open mikes or on club dates. The reason people “focus on the jokes he stole” is that those jokes give you some clue as to how unethical he is and how much deeper the thievery probably runs.
“minor poets borrow, major poets steal.”
“we are standing on the shoulders of giants.”
OK, I just noticed this comment:
You have absolutely no life if you have the time to make long comments and use big words.
HUH?! The guy made a quality comment that you couldn’t refute so he had ‘no life’. LOL OMGZ LMFAO WHOAAAA
People pay him to make them laugh, not to make original jokes. So if you think he’s funny go, if you don’t, don’t go.
You used the part of Louis C.K.’s bike joke from his 2001 special, which is still long before Dane’s, but Louis even told that joke in his first HBO Comedy Half Hour special in 1996.
In response to Sam, the reason he doesn’t steal from far superior comedians is because it would be more noticeable. It’s easier for him to take a joke or two from a less known comedian, because if they continue the joke they wrote, they’ll be the ones taking the wrap for “stealing” it from good old popular Dane.
Stop using Demetri Martin as an example of who Dane Cook is stealing from. Demetri Martin pretty much stole the entirety of Mitch Hedberg’s “Strategic Grill Locations” so if you’re going to say that Dane Cook stole material and that makes him a shitty comic, the guy who stole an entire show is much worse.
However, that doesn’t make a comic shitty. Comics rarely say funny things. Comics say things funny. Their entire art is in their presentation. I could stand on a stage and say the funniest joke in the world, but if I stand there with a monotone staring at a wall, nobody’s gonna laugh.
The fact is, comics steal other comics material all the time. It’s been happening forever. If you think these guys are doing something new and horrible by using a few other people’s jokes, you really need to wake up and smell the horse shit. That’s the world we live in.
WHY DONT YOU ALL SHUT UP
DANE COK IS AMAZING
SO IS THE OTHER DEWD
AND HOW DO U NOE THE DEWD DIDNT STEAL IT FROMH IM
AND ALL IN ALL
IF U DONT LIKE DANE COOK.
COOL THEN SHUT UP AND DONT LISTEN TO HIM
PROBLAM FRIGGEN SOLVED
@boinkers: Similarities are few, if any? You are quite good at denial, aren’t you?
@heather: What makes you think people would hate Dane Cook, if he didn’t steal? Then there’d be nothing to hate him for. And also, Chris’ blog post was not hateful at all, pointing out plagiarism is not hatred. Furthermore, you are saying that it is OK that he stole some jokes, because he also has some original ones. You mean, it’s OK if i steal your car, as long as i also have one that i bought legitimately? Cmon, be real.
@YA NO: passing jokes from friends to friends can not really be compared to stand-up comedy, where comedians perform their supposedly original material. One is common socializing, the other is big business. No comparison.
@altruist: It is not that simple. Jokes are a field of intellectual property that laws don’t cover very well, so plagiarism is runs rampart and gets through unpunished. If we were talking about a Microsoft invention that somebody used in their business, the thief would get sued the second Microsoft learned about it. But since it’s not technological intellectual property and because it’s not the corporations, who are getting ripped off, the law doesn’t really cover the field. The humble little comedian is not protected by the law, that’s the problem.
@Evan: You are wrong in saying it’s the delivery that is important, not the material. There are three equally important parts of a stand.up act, they are the persona, the material and the delivery. Cook is good at delivery, nobody can deny that, but the material is equally important. If material was uninportant, then he would not have to resort to stealing from other comedians, he could have just used some text from a phone book and delivered it in a funny way. To reply to the last part of your comment: high frequency does not justify theft. Car theft happens every day, doesn’t it? But it would still hurt you quite a bit, if you got your car stolen, wouldn’t it?
@Melissa: I’m glad I don’t have to live on the same continent as you.
You people are all trying to justify theft. Why is it, that all theft is wrong, apart from stealing jokes? Why is joke theft OK? That’s one thing i will never be able to understand.
that doesn’t count as stealing man. they are two jokes both on the topic of car accident, hence they are the same? great logic guys.
I guess the saying is true….it’s lonely at the top! =P
Stealing a jokes or persona is as unethical, low and despicable as stealing any type of creative art form. If there was only an occasional similarity between Cooke and various artists, it could br coincidence. Why is there so much Louis CK material, and Louis has been around as a writer pro performer before Cooke was around. Dane Cooke does a masterful job of creating a massive following of loyalists, in larger amounts female, than Louis CK. Louis CK was a writer for Conan’s show before anyone new who Dane cooke was, or is. It’ not coincidence. Cooke isn’t the first do this and surpass the artist he stole from. In Louis CK’s case he is well known, but Cooke is the number one or two grossing comedian. Richard Louis was riiped off by Paul Reieser, mostly in cultivating his onstage persona-probably thought to be worse by most performers. Bill Hicks jokes were ripped off by Denis Leary, more in content than Leary’s rapid fire delivery, and smoking , than the tirades, etc. Hicks eventually joked about the thievery.
wow ya’ll should just get over it. he’s funny and a few stolen jokes ain’t gonna hurt anyone. if u dnt lk him…you dnt have to. no one said u did. all this arguin bout it is just immature.
Be it comedy, music, scripts, etc.-all is typically variations of a theme or perspective; there is little “original” material out there; people use other’s subjects all the time…the real craft is the delivery.
Everyone should read the comment(s) by Rox several posts above mine. I was a stand-up comic for a dozen years, so I know what it’s like to write a joke that you create and craft to perfection. For those of you who think it’s okay to just come along and take my work, you’ve got nothing to stand on.
I always looked at it this way: if you steal my TV set, I can buy a new one. If you steal my joke and do it on TV, I can never get it back, it’s now “yours.” Anyone who thinks it’s okay for Dane Cook because he’s “funny” totally misses the point. If it happened to you, I promise you’d feel differently.
okay for all those that dont like him GET OVER IT. everyone steals jokes comedy is a hard thing to stay big in. and if you dont like him so much why are you wasting your time bitching about him???
Dane Cook steals, Yeah…
And he’s a douchebag for doing it…
And I’d probably hate him as a person….
But I wouldnt hear most of the jokes w.o him stealing them, so i still watch his stand ups….
It sucks that we are making him money instead of making the comics he stole from money…
Anyways, I think Daniel Tosh is a way better comedian than Cook anyway
Dane Cook is a great comedian 98% of the time. If he steals jokes then he should pay for that but he shouldn’t be shunned because he is still a great comedian. I am disappointed that someone that clever would even think that they should use others’ jokes, but now that he’s at the top we shouldn’t worry about the thievery anymore, but if he does it again, I’m moving on to people that matter.
If you like Dane Cook, you’re either a chick who wants to lay him, or a dude who sits to pee. Either way, it keeps you from filling up the real entertainer’s venue with your appletini.
He DOES steal jokes from other comedians….he steals A LOT of them! Hes a little bitch too…he knows he does it then when u confront him about it he just tries to brush it off and say ”we all just gotta let some things go.” ..fuckin hollywood pussboy now.. many comedians can back this..fuckin fraud!
WHATEVER!! this is stupid Danes Awsome as FUK!
He has obviously taken the basic concepts for the joke and tried to change it slightly, sign of a crap comic…but C.K is pretty crap to so he really may as well not have bothered
Yea, Dane Cook is fake as hell; it’s pretty easy to see that unless your a retard.
Alright, first thing we need to get out of the way: If you’re going to call someone a retard, please use the proper form of you’re/your; if you fuck it up, you end up looking like the retard.
Now to get to the point:
Dane Cook is a plagiarist.
It can be proven on multiple occasions by early recordings made by other comedians compared to newer recordings made by Dane.
Dane Cook is for younger audiences and/or those who do not listen to much comedy. He is for the new socials. His overly animated and often exaggerated voices appeal to the low attention span of the myspace generation. This helps explain how his bits can lack material but still be successful.
He entertains his audience more with his stage presence than the jokes he tells.
Dane Cook isn’t successful because what he says is any good (because sadly the only parts that are any good are the ones he has stolen, and he manages to hack them apart in my opinion) but he is “good” to the viewers that enjoy him because of the way he delivers the material.
A text-book case of style over substance.
Ohh and as a follow up:
I think another reason why his style over substance reigns supreme is because it runs parallel to how modern American society functions.
What you own, how you look, how many friends you have on myspace, these status symbols and more are what are emphasized as “important,” in today’s society and therefore Dane Cook is actually just capitalizing on what the people want.
I guess two jokes about somebody witnessing a car before it hit a biker and then blurting out stupidity instead of something to help the driver become aware of the biker really aren’t that similar…
There’s one simply truism about comics that tends to be forgotten; they all riff on the same material. How many comics talk about sex and/or relationships, for example? They pretty-nearly all do. I’d need every finger and toe of every person in the US to count how many times I’ve heard similar-sounding acts by different comedians. It’s the nature of the game.
Now with that having been said, I’ll admit that I’m not too familiar with Cook’s work. Hell, I only knew of Cook as an actor. I had no clue that he did comedy as well, or that it was actually his main claim to fame until today, when I heard some of his stuff on an internet radio station that specializes in comedy. So being as relatively ignorant about the man as I am, I have to ask you folks if he’s being called a rip-off artist because he steal acts wholesale, or because he riffs on the same shit that other comics do? If it’s the former, then he’s a hack. If it’s the latter, then y’all may need to evaluate why you’re giving this guy shit for it when everyone else gets a free pass.
I’d really like to know one way or the other. It’s interesting though, that this was the first page to turn up when I Googled the guy.
There is a formula to being a stand-up comic:
Talk about George W. Bush, Talk about O.J Simpson, talk about Michael Jackson and then talk about how your race is different than everyone else’s.
i love when people mention leary. He had a few jokes that sounded like Bill Hick’s material on 1….let’s point that out again…1 album and it was like 3…count that again 3, jokes that lasted for under 2 mins. Why could Leary pull those jokes off better than Bill Hicks? Cause Bill Hicks sucked ass. Name on comedian who is actually funny that names Hicks as an insperation! How come nobody that Hicks was notorious for stealing Sam Kinison’s jokes. The best thing ever to happen to Bill Hicks was to die from cancer to help him from repeatedly dying on stage.
Even if Leary stole jokes from Hick, he performed them better….kinda like if I wrote a song and then someone like Elvis, MJ or some other singer sings it better than I. People act like Hicks wrote the whole tv show Rescue Me or his other stand up discs.
Dane Cook is so not funny.
There is not a single time I watched him and actually laughed.
There are so many more comedians with good material that don’t need to resort to spastic flailing to make their audiences laugh, and I would much rather watch someone who’s material required a little more thought like theirs.
I am so sick of hearing about how funny he is from simpletons that love his slapstick, banana peel humour. Maybe if they had a little more intellect than their 1 digit IQ they would see how unfunny he truly is.
When the debate turns into an “I’m a non fan therefore I am smarter than you”, you have lost. Additionally, truly intelligent people don’t make blanket generalizations; rather they utilize critical thinking which is more significant than any IQ score and independent of your sexual preferences and if you do social networking or not.
In other words, some of you need to spare the smug sense of intellectual superiority and take a good hard look at yourselves before you wag the ole finger around.
You Dane Cook fans need to get your lips off this guy’s dick. Seriously, it’s pathetic.
And yes the car accident bits are the same. Not because of the car accident itself, but Louis/Dane not being able to think of something that would be able to convey the danger the victim was in in a short amount of time. Fucking pay attention you hack-loving cunts. How does Dane’s semen taste? I ask this because you are obviously swallowing copious amounts of it.
And an aside for Melissa: You just made Dane Cook fans look even worse than before with whatever the fuck that crap is that you vomited from your dog-licked asshole. Congratulations, you retarded bitchcunt. I hope your mom aborts you.
Everyone thinks it’s a stolen joke because the theme of the joke is the same? That’s rediculous! The themes are general. Everyone does a Facebook joke and it’s not stealing because fb is something huge in our culture. These topics of the jokes are things we all think about not just one person and then they get to copyright that thought. You can’t copyright an idea.
To all you pansies that sit here typing away, Demitri Martin isnt even funny anymore it was funny after the first few jokes of his and the FIRST episode of Important things, ALL is stupid by him, Dane cook didnt steal the WHOLE Kool-aid man Joke so piss off.
first off, i could give a damn less if my grammar and spelling was correct. second, have you ever noticed that when dane cook is about to deliver the “funny part” (i say funny part because is stand up actually contains no punch lines) he gets this look on his face like he’s “super excited for you guys to hear this one”! his delivery is trash. He just emphasizes certain phrases and steals the majority of his material from other comedians. EVERY joke i have ever heard from him ive heard from another comedian because the stories go along the exact same lines. ESPECIALLY “My son Optimus Prime”. i rarely hear original material from him yet for some odd reason i hear it from many other comedians. btw please stop calling Carlos mencia a real comedian. hes just as horrible.
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