Pedro Feliz Is The Big Answer To All The 3B Problems For Your Philadelphia Phillies

28 Jan

The Philadelphia Phillies and professional hacker Pedro Feliz have agreed to a 2 yr 8.5 million dollar deal, and an option for a 3rd year:

“We haven’t finalized anything, but we have been talking to his representatives,” Phillies assistant general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said late Monday afternoon. “Our offseason quest is still to improve our club in any way we can.”

Phillies manager Charlie Manuel, speaking at the Philadelphia Sports Writers Awards Banquet, sounded more convinced.

“We got better,” Manuel said. “He’s a good defensive player. He’s got power. He’ll hit probably sixth, seventh, somewhere in there. He’ll continue to hit 20 homers. I think putting him down in our lineup will help him. He was called on to hit in the middle of the lineup in San Francisco. A couple years ago, he might’ve been pressing to do too much because they had Barry Bonds there.”

The holdup to the finalization of this deal is that Amaro is basically deciding with Pat Gillick who they are going to cut to add him to the 40-man roster. The opinions of the fans have been mixed (courtesy BackSheGoes.com):

ESPN headline: Phillies fill third base hole, agree to deal with Feliz
Fixed: Phillies keep digging third base hole, agree to deal with Feliz

nnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

5 straight 20+ HR yrs while playing most of his games in Pac Bell/SBC/ATT/Verizon/CokeBottle Park, he’ll hit 7th or 8th depending on where they put Ruiz/Coste, he moves Helms to the bench, he can play a couple of games at 1B if necessary, he has playoff experience, and he didn’t cost a draft pick. I’m OK with it…

i think in general the move doesnt make the phillies worse… just dumber.
for the reasons of yeah he has good power, yeah his obp is laughable, yeah he plays great defense, yeah maybe his loose bat will not be as exposed in a better lineup… it might be a lateral move on the field.
but now it just adds another year of having a “hole” at 3B…

stupid parallel move. makes the offense a game or two worse and the defense a game or two better. not worth spending money on, and not worth making a deal for 2009. there is no reason to clog up 2009 based on him.

So what do I think? I think he’ll be a slight upgrade over Nunez/Dobbs/Helms, but he’s no great shakes. He’s a below-average hitter, as his career 84 OPS+ shows(100 is average). He’s a terrific defensive third baseman, but does that make up for his horrible patience at the plate? Somewhat, but that’s only because of the trash that was thrown out at third base the past couple seasons. Feliz is not a big upgrade, he’s a VERY small upgrade…VERY small. It seems like a waste of money, to be honest. We could’ve spent no money and gotten production that was only a little worse. Considering I feel a large part of offense is getting on base, his horrendous .288 career OBP is worrisome. His career EQA (basically an offensive metric which attempts to put everything together independent of park and league effects) is .244. .260 is league average, FWIW. Helms’ career EQA is .263.

Basically, we are trying to prolong the agony and keep plugging that hole with cheap solutions. First it was Abe Nunez, who had half an OK season and so we gave him a multi-year deal. Then it was Wes Helms, who had done well as a spot-starter in Florida but hadn’t proved much else. Now it’s Pedro Feliz, a guy that has been given regular time in San Francisco and who hasn’t really shown anything except for an ability to smack a home run or two and to wield a good glove. We don’t have any third base prospects worth mentioning, either. Feliz is our guy for 2 years, and he’s 32 now with no reason to suggest he’ll improve at this age. Yippee? I just don’t see the point. We could’ve just signed nobody and had a similar output.  It’s  a cheap screwup, and he improves our defense, but it still shows a bad mindset.

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5 Responses to “Pedro Feliz Is The Big Answer To All The 3B Problems For Your Philadelphia Phillies”

  1. irishmafia January 29, 2008 at 3:52 pm #

    what kind of site is this garbage
    i should of known you were trash from Philly
    have a fucking wonderful afternoon

  2. irishmafia January 29, 2008 at 3:52 pm #

    also, let me add my second comment of the day so i have the majority of comments on this site lol

  3. Brian January 29, 2008 at 7:48 pm #

    things go from bad to worse for the Phils- now the Mets have Santana

    the sky is falling!!

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